Have they talked about where they'd actually put a stadium? Because I remember when we were kicking around minor league stuff years back, the land question always killed the deal. We've got the Switchbacks over at Weidner Field now, which works fine for soccer, but baseball needs something different. The old Sky Sox used to play down south before that moved, and before that the Spurs were around. Point is, stadiums need infrastructure that doesn't just appear. Parking, water, utilities. The city's got constraints up here that don't make it simple. Would be nice if it happened, but I'd want to see the actual proposal before getting excited about it.

Not sure I agree that this would be the windfall some folks think it is. I remember when the Cog Railway shut down for that long stretch, and how people said that would be the end of tourism here, but Manitou kept going because people come for the air and the quirk of the place, not because we had some major league draw. Baseball's fine, sure, but we're not built like a real stadium town, we're a pass-through and a destination for hikers and artists. The infrastructure that works for us now, the quiet evenings, the way Manitou still feels like something apart from the Springs proper, that changes when you've got 5,000 people rolling in for night games. Around '92 the only way to get through Ute Pass was the highway, and even then it backed up summers. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying whoever pushes this needs to think hard about what gets paved over. We've already lost enough of what made this place worth visiting in the first place.

Sky was that flat-blue this morning, made me think about sight lines. Stadium light pollution, probably. That's what always gets me about this stuff. Not sure how I feel about it honestly. Downtown's already got the bones of something, that whole corridor has potential if they actually do it right. But you'd be looking at night games, parking problems, the usual infrastructure arguments people get worked up over. The Pikes Peak area draws plenty of visitors already, doesn't need a baseball team to do that. Though I guess if it happened it'd at least be local, which beats driving up to Denver for a game. Hard to know what the actual footprint would be until someone shows actual plans, you know? Right now it's...

Not sure I agree with the framing that this is just about baseball, if that makes sense. The question is what a minor league team actually does for downtown and the neighborhoods around it. I've watched the Switchbacks grow over the last few years, and that's been real. You get people downtown on gameday, that matters for the restaurants and bars that have tried to stick it out through the rough patches. But here's what I'm thinking about: a baseball stadium isn't a stadium, it's a real estate question. Where does it go? Who owns the land? Does it actually bring money to Springs Ranch and Hillside or does it just create some summer foot traffic for people who already have spending power? Those are different things. The City for Champions stuff wasn't wrong, but it also wasn't magic. Some of it worked. Some of it created infrastructure that mostly gets used by people who could already get downtown. I'm not saying that's bad, just saying it's complicated. A baseball team could genuinely anchor something downtown if it's part of a bigger picture about making that area actually livable and mixed-income, not just a venue you drive to. But if it's just "build a stadium and prosperity happens," we've seen how that plays out. What I'd want to know is whether the groups talking about this have actually looked at what neighborhoods would be affected, what the parking situation looks like, what kind of jobs it creates beyond gameday concessions. And whether any of the money being discussed actually flows to Pikes Peak State College or community stuff in areas that need it. Not in like a corporate social responsibility way, but structurally. The Switchbacks work because soccer's different, smaller footprint, built into something that existed. Baseball's a different animal. Could work, but it's not automatic. anyway just some thoughts from someone who actually goes downtown sometimes instead of just complaining about it online